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Antonio Nicaso and Chiara Bertola Discuss Creativity and Organized Crime on Contemporaneamente Podcast

other · 2026-04-27

In the Contemporaneamente podcast hosted by Mariantonietta Firmani, journalist Antonio Nicaso and curator Chiara Bertola explore the intersection of creativity and organized crime. Nicaso, a leading expert on the 'ndrangheta and professor at Queen's University in Canada, argues that mafia capital now fuels the legal economy and that combating organized crime requires cultural change, not just law enforcement. Bertola, curator of the contemporary art project 'Conservare il futuro' at Fondazione Querini Stampalia in Venice since 1999 and former artistic director of Hangar Bicocca in Milan, emphasizes that art can be disruptive when it rejects banality. The conversation critiques media-driven cultural flattening since the 1980s and highlights the need for deep knowledge to interpret narratives. The episode is available on Spreaker.

Key facts

  • Antonio Nicaso is a leading expert on the 'ndrangheta and teaches at Queen's University in Canada.
  • Chiara Bertola has curated 'Conservare il futuro' at Fondazione Querini Stampalia since 1999.
  • Nicaso co-wrote 'Non chiamateli eroi' and 'Complici e colpevoli' with magistrate Nicola Gratteri.
  • Bertola was artistic director of Hangar Bicocca from 2009 to 2012.
  • The podcast is hosted by Mariantonietta Firmani.
  • Nicaso states that mafia capital now sustains the legal economy.
  • Bertola argues that art can be disruptive when it rejects banality.
  • The episode is available on Spreaker.

Entities

Artists

  • Antonio Nicaso
  • Chiara Bertola
  • Mariantonietta Firmani
  • Nicola Gratteri

Institutions

  • Queen's University
  • Fondazione Querini Stampalia
  • Hangar Bicocca
  • Venice Gardens Foundation
  • Fondazione Bevilacqua La Masa
  • Premio Furla
  • Biennale Internazionale d'Arte di Venezia
  • Quadriennale di Roma
  • Mondadori
  • Netflix
  • Treccani
  • Artribune
  • Parallelo42 contemporary art
  • Spreaker

Locations

  • Venice
  • Italy
  • Canada
  • Milan
  • Rome
  • Kainan Islands

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